What happens when The Ride Along crashes the studio of one of the top building science experts in the country? You get a fast-moving, insight-packed conversation with Matt Risinger – custom builder, YouTube powerhouse, and founder of Risinger Build.
In episode 51, Matt joins hosts Brad Lowery and Matt Brading in Austin, TX, to talk about what really makes a home high-performance – and how inspectors can use those same principles to educate buyers and reduce long-term risk.
Key takeaways:
- Water is the enemy
- Code doesn’t mean quality
- Framing isn’t everything
- Inspectors and builders need each other
Want to know how “Monopoly framing” works or why you should never trust caulk for waterproofing? You’ll have to watch.
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Transcript
Brad Lowery
All right guys, another episode of the ride along and we are not in our usual location here at all, Matt, we are not this is very different.
Matt Brading
We’re in a special place today. Today we are in Austin, TX and we have someone. We have a special guest on here today and this is his studio, and this is a a good friend of mine. His name is Matt Risinger. He is a building science expert and a high-performance building pro out here in the Austin area. You might know him from the Build Show or from his podcast from YouTube, but welcome to the show, Matt.
Matt Risinger
Thanks, Matt. Appreciate you guys having me fun to have you all in the studio too. This is fun. I’m normally the host of the of the podcast. So it’s fun to be the guest.
Brad Lowery
It’s fun to actually be in a studio. I mean, it’s like we’ve been doing this kind of from home studios for a while. We had a few episodes last year from a from a proper studio, but I just think that porch should really invest some money, you know, into a little studio.
Matt Risinger
You know, it’s not that expensive.
Brad Lowery
Yeah. Yeah.
Matt Risinger
Frankly, the equipment is more expensive than the build out.
Matt Brading
Yeah.
Matt Risinger
Yeah, I think that one was a few bucks. But but, you know, this is Costco sound panel walls, no doubt. You know, it’s just a drop ceiling, just regular framing with some Rockwell insulation. So there, it’s really not that expensive to build one of these. On the other hand, 3 Sony cameras, mixer boards and run the mixer boards. That’s where it gets expensive.
Brad Lowery
But truly, you guys, there’s nothing that you guys shortcut. And so the fact that you put the money into the studio, this is reflective of everything that you guys do. I can’t wait to get into exactly what all that is.
Matt Risinger
So the quick intro is I’ve been building for 30 years. I started right after college with the big national builder. I worked for them for a long time, got acquainted with building science from the failure standpoint. In the early 2000s, I was working in Portland, OR, and we got caught up in the EFIS crisis. For the young inspectors out there, that’s the external insulating finishing systems and fake stucco.
Matt Brading
Fake stucco.
Matt Risinger
We still deal with it to this day, see houses with it. It can be done well, but back then we were not doing any WRB behind it. We were face caulking everything and the builder I was over in for at the time was like, oh this is great. It’s half the price and looks great and it’s insulating. et’s do it everywhere. So we built a bunch of leaky houses and then also the mold crisis happened in that same 2002 time frame. So Long story short, I started digging into like, why are we getting sued by all these people? Learned a lot about building science, realized it was really all about water if you just boil it down. And to this day, we were talking about this moments ago, water is the number one enemy of the house. And, you know, a home inspector’s client should be concerned about water much more than structure or, you know, almost anything else. But yet it’s really, frankly, hard to #1 inspect for water. And #2 it’s hard to get people to truly wrap their minds around that being a bigger issue than other things.
Brad Lowery
So I mean, it’s for the average home buyer when they’re coming into the house they’re concerned about on the home inspection. The first question that I often get is, did it pass? I’m like, well, pass what? You know, what you ought to be asking is, is it dry, right?
Matt Brading
Yeah.
Matt Risinger
And is it going to stay?
Matt Brading
Is it going to dry?
Matt Risinger
Right, For sure, Brad.
Matt Risinger
So the quick part of the last part of the story is I moved to Texas in O5 and quickly realized, oh man, this hot humid South is way different than building a house in the north where I was building before. Like you got to really pay attention to vapor barriers and where to not use them. Frankly, there’s a lot. I was like, moldy houses are a really big deal and very common down there in the South. A funny story I tell all the time is when I first moved here on October 1st, I told my wife, hey, we got a Carver pumpkin Halloweens later this month. She’s like, no, we don’t normally carve them this early. And I was like, no, I know you like to decorate, let’s grab one at the store and like 3 days later it’s a mess. So you parents around here carve their pumpkin a day before, 2 days before they know. So it’s just a it’s a difficult place to build a house that’s lasting and durable and is healthy. So as a quick side note, I really appreciate what you guys do for a living. You guys make a big difference and I wish that there was a more collegial atmosphere between your industry and mine and I’m hoping that our friendship will help with that in time.
Matt Brading
I mean, I, I think it will and I, and I hope so as well. I’ve seen it change. I mean, I think the perception of inspectors has changed a bit throughout recent years. I think some of that comes because of the transparency we have with our job now on with our social media presence, like some of us that are actually putting it out there and showing what we do, showing what we’re paying attention to. I think that’s made a really big difference. So, you know, there’s always that, you know, can you tell people now, one thing I want to touch on. You’re the one that told me and I don’t remember who whose quote this is, but you’re the one that told it to me. It’s not about keeping water out, but letting water out. Who was that?
Matt Risinger
David Nicastro. He’s a Austin, TX building science guy who’s old and smart.
Matt Brading
And that’s just like kind of building science in a nutshell almost. It really is. But can you tell people that don’t? OK, so, you know, you told us a little bit about yourself. Can you define? Because I get, I get asked this question a lot. What is high performance building? Yeah, sum that up.
Matt Risinger
That’s a great question. I mean, really high performance building is building in a way that number one, we’re going to avoid problems down the road. And I think of that as healthy homes. I mean healthy homes are not anything special. They’re just built in a way that you’re going to avoid problems. And frankly, the number one problem being moisture. So, you know, to build a healthy house, you have to control moisture really well, which typically also means we need to control air really well. Because in the South, if we don’t control our air movement from inside to outside or outside to inside, we’re going to have moisture depositing on a cold condensing surface.
Matt Brading
With air comes water.
Matt Risinger
Exactly. With air comes water. That’s perfect way to say it. In fact, I, I went to webinar this week and the instructor gave a really good analogy to humidity, which I really liked. He said, if you think about the air as like an empty egg crate and the moisture as eggs, as the number of eggs in the basket goes up, you can reach a point where there’s no more eggs that fit in the basket. That’s 100% humidity, really low humidity is just one or two eggs in a 12 count basket. That was, that was kind of an interesting analogy. It’s kind of, it gives you a good visual.
Brad Lowery
It gives you a good visual, definitely. And you were telling us when we were looking at your own house that is 100% sealed on the exterior?
Matt Risinger
Well, I mean, there is never 100%.
Brad Lowery
Yeah, I was going to say, yeah, it’s an even. How did you get to that point?
Matt Risinger
We want to get as low as we can on the airtightness. I I like the analogy that Steve Basic has used. A bunch of friend of mine. He’s a good building science guy. He says, look, if you bought a new BMW and you had a window that wouldn’t go up all the way, it was always stopped by about 1/2 inch. How often would you be uncomfortable in that car? I mean, occasionally when you were sitting still in the car, maybe you wouldn’t be uncomfortable. As soon as you went down the highway on 100° day, you wouldn’t be able to cool the car very well. You’d have the issue of the wind noise, and you’d be really upset that that car was not built well. You would immediately take it back to the dealer and say, hey, this window doesn’t go all the way up. But when it comes to houses, people are like, oh, these houses need to breathe. We can’t seal these houses up. But what do you mean we can’t seal them up? Well, if we don’t introduce mechanical ventilation, a fresh air system, then there is some potential, oh, we should have some fresh air, but do we really want that air leaking through our walls and our windows and doors and places that that we don’t want it to leak through? Or do we want it to come in through a dedicated fresh air system? You know your car, even your my crappy not crappy. My low cost Chevy compared to a really expensive truck has a fresh air system. And when I sit in that truck and take a zoom call, I’m perfectly comfortable as long as the engines running and my fresh air is bringing a little bit of air in. It goes through a micro cabin filter. It brings that air into my cabin. The AC works if it needs to, if it doesn’t it doesn’t. It just brings fresh air in. But as soon as I shut off that engine and sit in that car, even if I have the window cracked, I’m getting uncomfortable quick right now. That’s the same with our houses. We need this mechanical ventilation 24/7. We’ve just been frankly too cheap to do it in the home building world.
Brad Lowery
So is that kind of what distinguishes your custom builds from some of the others in the area? Because we’ve talked a little bit on the way over here about you kind of learned the hard way about terrible construction. And that honestly might be one of the biggest dividing points between builders and home inspectors to kind of circle back a little bit. It’s just that inspectors, they have such high standards and things that they want to see because they know the right way for the most part, that things are supposed to be done. And that in the building world, so many times corners get cut. And you worked for one of those big national companies back in the day and that seemed to really educate you on and trained you for what you’re doing now.
Matt Risinger
So, well, it’s a hard question because there’s ultimately there’s levels of correctness, right? And, and when it’s a code issue, you can point to the 2024 IRC and say, you know, these stairs don’t meet code. You know, your, your variance between the steps is too high. You know, you have a head height issue here. It’s a real cut and dried thing. But when it comes to, let’s say, window flashings, you know, there’s kind of a this passes barely. This doesn’t pass or this, you know, this is better or this is the best, right? And, and I think that’s what you’re alluding to, Brad, is that when it comes to a lot of things that builders and home inspectors maybe might but heads over, you have a higher standard. Builder has a lower standard.
Brad Lowery
Sure.
Matt Risinger
And whose standard is right?
Brad Lowery
Yeah.
Matt Brading
We’re pretty much looking at things for the highest standard, right? And, and most of the time, we’re not getting that at all. But just something is just because I think it’s code compliant doesn’t mean it’s going to perform well.
Matt Risinger
Oh, 100% true that.
Matt Brading
You know, there’s certainly things out there that can do a whole lot better than what is just a meeting code.
Brad Lowery
Now on the, the statements you made there about, you know, what’s the, what’s truly the correct version or what’s the best level of correctness, if you will, is it, does it really come down to what the buyer is willing to pay for as far as what’s the most right?
Matt Risinger
That’s a good question.
10:22
Probably to some degree, yes, But a phrase that we’ve used around my office for years is, and now I’m probably going to butcher this. I hope that my business partners aren’t listening, but it it’s basically sometimes we need to put the house above the client and, and, and above us is a builder, frankly, meaning, you know, if the right thing for this house is to put a sill pan under the doors and windows that the clients like, I want the cheapest whatever, you know, this, this budget’s got to come down. Let’s say builders too often cut their legs out from underneath them. Oops, sorry, I hit the mic by saying, well, we can, we can eliminate this or that. We can go to this lower grade of system. We can do a basic HVAC, we can do a cheaper grade window. We can do all these things when really we should be saying, look, there is a minimum standard Mr. or Missus client that’s going to lead to a well built house that at a minimum 12 years from now, which is my general liability as a builder in Texas is still going to be performing perfectly well. And if I go below that standard, I put myself at risk. I put you at risk and I’m building a house that’s a high risk house. And so we want to lower the risk for our clients and be smart about it, knowing that our clients generally don’t know what’s the right thing to do. We’re the experts.
Matt Brading
I mean, these, these production builds that I’m building, they’re, they’re building for the one year, They’re building to get through the one year and then throw their hands up. And for the most part with, with a lot of stuff, because, you know, this is the thing because I, I see so many things that are installed wrong when it comes to especially when it comes to like fiber cement board siding, flashing, things like this. The thing is, is the, the problems that come associated with that kind of stuff, it’s generally not the homeowner buying that house that’s going to deal with that problem. Yeah, it’s probably one or two owners down the line. So the builders are getting away with doing stuff wrong and doing stuff that doesn’t perform right because the person buying the house from them actually isn’t going to be the one that experiences the problem. It’s going to be a few owners down the line. And they’re like, oh, well, you know that siding and we had a window leak here. So they pulled off some siding and realized, Oh yeah, well, your headers brought it out because the flashing either wasn’t there or wasn’t installed properly or something like that. We were talking earlier. It was funny because I do, you know, pre drywall inspections and I never really thought, I mean, I do think about it because for me, I and I think that doing the, they think it’s a framing inspection, right? That’s what they kind of call it. And for me, I feel like it’s always more important to put the emphasis on the weather barrier of the house, not necessarily the framing of the house, because I mean, I’m not saying that they don’t make mistakes. They certainly do. And I’ve seen some egregious mistakes even with framing. We want to look at it, right? But I mean, like the thing that’s happening more times than not, at least in my area, is that moisture intrusion is happening. And so they’re not paying very, very close attention to that kind of stuff. And it’s funny because people want you to go in there and look at the framing. You know, I kind of had this thought after our conversation about, well, maybe I either need to rename the inspection or because sometimes I don’t get there before they put some cladding up, maybe there is a fourth type of inspection I need to do, which is specifically for the exterior weather barrier or exterior weather barrier inspection. And then a framing inspection where we inspect the framing, the rough electrical, rough HVAC and make sure it’s prepared and ready for insulation.
Matt Risinger
For sure. I got AI, got a quick side note in that map that I think’s interesting. There’s a builder in town in Austin who’s, you know, 20-30 years longer in business than me. They’ve been building for 40-50 years. And all the Super high end houses in town, you know, like if Elon Musk was building a house in town, they’re the builder who would probably do it. Or there’s probably a half dozen builders on that list. And at least one of them I know for sure tells the client, look, we’re going to put in your budget for an outside client for an outside consultant to come and do a spray rack test on every installed window of the house to make sure that it doesn’t leak. Because that builder knows that if the client pays for that and issues found, it can be solved. And now he as a builder has way reduced his liability because if Elon Musk sues you, you are hoes.
Brad Lowery
Yeah, right.
Matt Risinger
Like you’re going to lose. And even if you don’t lose, you’re going to spend a ton of. So why not? That’s right. So why not have the client pay for this extra layer of basically it’s a glorified home inspection is all it is, right? It’s just a specialized home inspector. So then as a low cost version of that, my buddy Jake Burton, we’ll go out there on a on an afternoon and spend 2 hours housing the whole house. He’s talking about pressure washer, right? Not but just a hose end sprayer and just every window. Hey Isaac, you see anything inside? Nope. This one looks good. Well, let me go in a couple more minutes. Then he moves on to the next window.
Brad Lowery
Don’t we wish our clients window?
Matt Risinger
Oh, it is.
Matt Brading
I mean, yeah, I mean I did one recently where I could literally see daylight from the inside out. And so like common it just, you know, it would have failed that test miserably.
Matt Risinger
That’s so common. There’s, there’s a brand of windows that I don’t want to say to disperse them, but they send a, a folding flashing flange. It’s a, it’s a flashing flange on this window or I should, I should tend to call it a nailing flange that folds in for shipping. And then, and then if you can kind of picture the, the corner here. I’m showing my hands here. When the corner folds out, it looks like this. You got this big open corner that you’re supposed to put a corner pad on and the corner pads are in the trash. 90% of the time they don’t get put on. Maybe at best they’re putting some, you know, straight flashing tape on there on the White House wrap or seam tape, seam tape, right? Or when you look inside, you can see that pinhole of light right there in the all four corners of the window and you’re like, how is that getting to be water?
Matt Brading
I mean, it’s straight up isn’t it’s not. So at that point it’s kind of like, you know, you’re when in your early days, they’re relying on sealant, you know, sealant and fighting. It was a phase caulk system and keep they’re keeping the water out and I or trying attempting to yeah, and they’re ultimately going to fail.
Matt Risinger
You know you’re never going to be able to keep all the water out. Caulking should in general only be used for aesthetics, never for waterproof.
Brad Lowery
Yeah, now it definitely makes sense. The other question I had for you kind of going back to home buyers. I was noticing on the rising your bill that essentially you’re trying to do this in a way that makes it a little bit more affordable. Of course, saying that we were, we were indeed trying to do that.
Matt Risinger
Yeah.
Brad Lowery
No, I, I think that’s awesome because I’ve seen some of, at least in, you know, residential homes up in Northern Virginia. Slowly some of these newer features are starting to make their way in. This is the first time I’ve ever seen a span panel, but I’ve seen some squares.
Matt Risinger
Those are not horrible necessarily. Yeah, they have come down quite a bit.
Brad Lowery
You know, the span panels are only like 3500 bucks now.
Matt Brading
They’ve got a competitor too.
Brad Lowery
Well, Square DS got a newer one too.
Matt Risinger
Yeah. And Levitan makes it pretty sweet.
Matt Brading
Yeah, I’ve seen that one. But there’s another smart town I’m thinking about. I can’t think of the name, but I feel like there’s a little bit of competition in them. I mean, what you know. Yeah, I mean, I think there’s some details that obviously, I mean, you could have put a metal roof on that house, but they put shingles on that.
Matt Risinger
Yeah. That’s my first shingle roof in 20 years, just that flat.
Brad Lowery
So in bringing the price down, at what point do you think some of this is going to start to trickle down towards, for example, we were talking some of the, I guess like the big box builders, if you will, some of the big brands that are out there. At what point will it become more affordable for middle class families that are looking to buy and yet future proof their homes?
Matt Risinger
Yeah, affordability is a really hard topic, Brad. This is probably 4 podcasts worth. But I think when it comes to affordability, there’s a couple things we need to, we need to be, we need to think bigger on, you know, in general, America is a single family. You know, the American dream is to own your own single family home. And more and more it’s, it’s a dream of a bigger and bigger house. You know, when my, my grandparents were immigrants, they did buy a house and they raised 6 girls in like, you know, 1400 square feet, right? And these days we’re like, Oh my gosh, how do, how do you fit your family of 6 in this 2800 square foot house? As if I’m really like slumming it in 2800 square feet, right, right. And so when I built my house, I could have easily built a 4000 square foot house, but with the same budget as a 4000 square foot house. I built a 2800 square foot house that works, that works at the last. It will have no problems that if that if I wanted to, I could pass it down to my grandchildren.
Brad Lowery
I would rent your attic.
Matt Risinger
But my attic is it is pretty sweet. It’s very cold. So I purposely built a smaller footprint, smaller house so I could build it. And honestly, I think that we need to think about that as Americans, but also we need to realize like maybe we just need really well-built condos. You know, some European companies, countries, rather a lot of those folks don’t necessarily own single-family homes, but they own a condo and a high rise and they’ve got triple glazed windows and they have fresh air systems. They have nice kitchens. And if they ever move and sell it, they take their bull top kitchen and they move it to the next house. So there is a little bit of a difference. And of course real estate’s way more expensive there. You know, you buy a piece of ground in Germany or Switzerland, it’s a way more expensive than Texas. So I think we we’ve just gotten used to big and crappy.
Brad Lowery
Truly I so my former father-in-law, I say former, you know, we’re still friends. But anyway, awesome dude built his own house over in Germany. And I tell you, those walls are so perfectly smooth. And there was a buyer at a recent inspection that I did that that kind of freaked out when the afternoon sun hit the wall in just the way that where you can see every ripple, every seam of tape, even though they had painted over. And this was I guess. You know, Gray paint, this is a it was still a thing of the time. And I’m like, this is a step up from primer in the finish, right? But the color is still accomplishing. It’s showing every, every flaw in American drywall. And they’re like, what’s happening? Is this wall about to fall down? And I’m like, dude, if you shine a flashlight down any wall in a house in America, you’re going to.
Matt Brading
Oh, man. Yeah. So I actually do that in every one of my.
Matt Risinger
I got a great quote on this from Steve Basic, if you don’t mind.
Brad Lowery
Yeah, Yeah, go ahead.
Matt Risinger
His quote is it’s not that high performance houses cost too much. It’s that our idea of a fairly priced new home is based on a history of building houses to meet embarrassingly low performance benchmarks. So in other words, the production builder houses I was building 20 years ago, this this certainly were at a low cost. They were embarrassing. Like today, if you went back to some of those houses, they would be in horrible shape and maybe they’d still be structural, but they would absolutely have problems. Every window in the whole house would need to get replaced. 30 years later. All the siding when you get replaced, it’s probably on a second or third roof. It’s like, why didn’t we use that money and build a house that’s half as big but twice as good, twice as long lasting with better windows with better healthier systems for the house with better a track systems with lower utility costs built in a way that 50 years later, maybe you’d need to replace the kitchen because it’s outdated, but all the windows would still be there. The original roof would still be on. We can absolutely do that. We just decide not to.
Brad Lowery
But that would save you so much money because it’s like a lot of times American home buyers we’re looking at that upfront cost or what the monthly is going to be on it. But they’re not stopping to think that 1015 years, for example, a roof in Florida that I would call a 30-year roof back in Virginia is not right that that 30-year architectural shingle might last you 10 to 15. So if you’re going to put the money up front then into more sustainable materials and into more sustainable practices, you might be saving yourself down the road then.
Matt Risinger
100%. The Florida insurance commissioner, I forget his name, Michael, something like he has a weird name, Michael Ilvin or something like that. About three months ago, he had this quote that was that was on all the news stations around Florida where he said we might need to consider not putting on shingles on roofs in Florida anymore.
Matt Risinger
And that’s not AI didn’t quote it exactly, but he basically said he went on to say, you know, you put a shingle on your house that’s calls it a 30-year shingle and at best you’re going to get 15 years out of it. And every time a storm comes through, we RIP all these things off and the insurance company has to pay for it. So what if in the state of Florida we stopped allowing shingle roofs that are going to have to get replaced in six months when a hailstorm comes, right? What a waste. And by the way, most shingle roofs go right in the landfill. Some of them get put into Rd. Base in Austin. If you if you RIP off your shingle roof, it’ll go to Rd. Base, but any part out of Austin doesn’t. It goes right in the landfill. Instead, put a metal roof on, it’ll last three times longer. And when they RIP it off, it’s 100% recyclable and people want to recycle it because it has value and they look great.
Matt Brading
They last so much longer and they look so much better too.
Matt Risinger
So it’s, it’s a hard 1 though, right? Because they are more expensive.
Matt Brading
They are more expensive build.
Matt Risinger
We put the money into the structure and I put an over roof on that’s vented that has rooftop insulation, that has monopoly framing, that has a second layer of decking. And so then I said, all right, well, we don’t have the money for a metal roof here. We’re going to save the 15,000 bucks and put a shingle roof on
Matt Brading
Perhaps the next time it needs a roof though, you know, like, because obviously like the rest of the things are going to last. And so there won’t the hopefully the homeowner will not be putting a whole bunch of money into too much within 15 years. And then if that roof needs replacing, then you replace it.
Matt Risinger
Put, you know, put the money into it there, whereas you’re never going to, you’re never going to switch out your framing later. You’re never going to switch out your air barrier later. You’re never going to put rooftop. Well, you might do rooftop insulation, but it’d be pretty rare. Yeah, very, very, really the original builder that needs to do that when the full crew is on.
Matt Brading
So I, I get worried about retrofitting stuff like that.
Matt Risinger
You know, it’s possible, but you need a really good trained crew to do it. And so people ask me that all the time. And it’s just not a shingle crew, even a metal roofing crew. They’re not. They don’t have the ability to do that rooftop insulation.
Brad Lowery
Well, now the style of framing that you do on your house is, again, tell the viewers one more time because this was the first time that I’d ever heard of it or seen it myself.
Matt Risinger
Yeah, I don’t do it in every house, but I’ve done it quite a few times, including my own house and the Risinger build that we are finishing. It’s something, it’s a phrase that I’ve coined. Actually, I’m working on getting that trademark on it.
Matt Brading
I thought that was your monopoly Framing is what I call it.
Matt Risinger
But actually, I stole the concept from a really good building scientist and I was trying to make sure I’d give him credit. This guy, Joe Stiebrick, it’s spelled Lustybrick LSTIBUREK, but he pronounces it’s theebrick. He’s a, he’s the godfather of building science in America. And he wrote this paper in about 2010 called The Perfect Wall. And he basically said, look, if you framed a wall and you put the water and the air and the vapor barrier in the outside of the wall. And instead of putting the insulation inside the cavity, you put the insulation outside of the wall so that all the framing lived in the same air conditioned space that you and I would be in. That would be the perfect wall. I mean, think about how long this table in my studio will last. If it’s in the studio, this table could literally be here hundreds of years from now. Now, if I get a roof leak tomorrow and I don’t fix it, or if I put this outside as a garden table, how long is it going to last?
Matt Brading
Not very long.
Matt Risinger
But in Japan there are thousands of year old wood structures that are been kept dry and they’re fine. So if we could treat our houses like that, put the jacket on the outside of the house rather than stuffing the insulation in between our ribs, that’s the perfect wall. And it turns out if you take that wall and slant it, that’s the perfect slab. And if you tilt it, that’s the perfect roof.
Brad Lowery
Awesome.
Matt Risinger
And so the idea is when you frame the house, instead of framing it traditionally where the rafters poke through the 2nd floor or you’ve got all these cracks that you’re trying to air seal and you have to do all these things like spray foam or whatever to air seal. Why not frame your wall so your roof sheathing actually touches your wall sheathing. Clip your rafters at the wall and then frame it overhang later. And I’ve made a bunch of videos on it. If you just search Monopoly framing, you’ll come to a bunch of videos that I’ve made about it. But it’s a it’s the exact same materials that we would use on any other build that any other builder would use, but just done in a slightly different way. It’s a different method. It just totally increases the performance, longevity, durability and efficiency of the house.
Matt Brading
Well, I guess before we get too deep into this, because we got to wrap it up here pretty soon it is we got to do the drink of the day after by Inspection Fuel, right? And today, you guys are drinking sparkling water. I forgot to bring one in here, but I did bring Matt something.
Matt Risinger
What’d you bring, Matt?
Matt Brading
Every time I’m on the way into Austin, I stop at Kooper’s Family Whiskey. And I brought you a bottle of bourbon from Kooper’s Family.
Matt Risinger
Kooper with a K.
Brad Lowery
Yep. That’s what’s up right there.
Matt Risinger
Family Bourbon.
Matt Brading
Yep.
Brad Lowery
Good stuff.
Matt Risinger
That’s so kind. Thanks, brother. I’m going to make an old fashion out of this bad boy. That’s not sacrilegious, is it?
Matt Brading
Absolutely not. You do you drink your bourbon the way you like to drink.
Brad Lowery
The only wrong way to drink bourbon is to not what a cool unless you just shouldn’t for medical reasons.
Matt Brading
We would get into it now probably, but I mean like it is kind of in the middle of the day.
Brad Lowery
That’s it, that’s it. So no, this is awesome. No, So guys go first of all, go follow Matt Reisinger over on his YouTube channelshow.com is the other great place to find our content and find follow his podcast too. I mean, you guys have a great podcast as well. So honestly, we’re so honored be here that you let us crash in the studio.
Matt Brading
Thanks a lot, Matt.
Brad Lowery
Yeah, and to see the house. Stay tuned because we have an amazing episode in the field at the rising rebuild. You’re going to want to go watch if you if you want to go in depth again, check out the YouTube channel, but we’re going to show you at least a few of the highlights of what you guys have been doing over there.
Matt Risinger
And if you’re if that piques your interest, if you’ll permit me for a second, go check out our video series. I’m just finishing. I’ve the last two more episodes. I’ve the mechanical commissioning episode and the final walkthrough episode coming out, but we’ve shot a 24-part series on that house. We’re hoping to be on Roku and Apple TV and some of these in the future. So we wanted to have we’ve been working on more series content.
Brad Lowery
Yeah, I love it.
Matt Risinger
So we’ve shot that house from concept to completion. And by the way, the house plans available if someone wants to build it too at the BFS home plan library.
Brad Lowery
Fantastic. Man, that’s so cool. I would love to see the final episode because just walking through, I was blown away with what’s there now and I’m like, I can’t wait to see the finished product.
Matt Risinger
Thanks. I appreciate that. Very kind to have you guys. Appreciate it. Thank you.
Brad Lowery
Yeah, thanks, Matt. Thanks, guys. Stay tuned. We’ll see you guys right here next time on the ride along. You got it.