In Episode 67 of The Ride Along, Brad and Matt sit down with Rhyan Miller – a firefighter and home inspector – to talk about why first responders often thrive in inspections.
Rhyan shares how his firefighting experience changes what he looks for (especially around fire-related risks) and how he communicates hazards clearly: facts first, explain the “why,” and let clients decide what they want to do next.
If you’re curious about inspections as a flexible side business that can grow into a second career, this episode gets real about the upside and the tradeoffs.
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Transcript
Brad Lowery :
Matthew freaking Brading. We are done with January and off to the races of Twenty-twenty six. How you doing, man?
Matt Brading :
Man, I’m all right. Been busy. Just got back from a job recently, like, or just a few minutes ago. It’s been busy lately, thank God, because, it was the slowest start to the year that I can remember. But things are picking up now and looking pretty good. So yeah, I’m excited about Twenty-twenty six, man.
Brad Lowery :
Dude, we love to hear it. And guys today we are talking about something really, really interesting because when it’s a, when works a little bit slow, sometimes it’s good to have a side gig and some, for some of y’all home inspections is the side gig. talked a little bit about this on Tik TOK. There were some comments on this mat going back and forth about, you do home inspections full time? Can you do it part time? And there’s a lot of people that do home inspections on the side. And I actually worked with one back in the day who was a firefighter for, for the city of Baltimore racking up a nice career there racking up a pretty good pension for his retirement and then was also a home inspector in a spare time. He did a really great job with that. So we have a firefighter joining the show today.
Matt Brading :
That’s right. That’s right. So last week we had or whenever it aired we had Christina green the last episode we had Christina Greenfield on the show and we talked all about the importance of a healthy home, which was great and people are loving that episode. So if you haven’t seen it go check it out. But today we’re more talking about safety hazards in relation to you know fire hazards and things like that because as an active firefighter with the Beaumont Fire Department Rhyan Miller. You have seen a lot of things in the field that I imagine, you know, have, give you a different perspective on things as a home inspector, being a home inspector and a firefighter. So first of all, welcome to the show, man. And, and so for, for, you know, people that don’t know, the name of your company is first in inspections. So, you know, give us, give us just a quick idea of the, the name there. mean, obviously it’s a play on first responder, I believe, but, but yeah, how did that come about?
Rhyan Miller :
Hey, thank you. It’s a pleasure to be here. Yep, first in inspections. Yeah, so put… It’s a play on the firefighting aspect. know, they call when you go to a fire and you’re the first engine that gets there, you are the first in engine and you see everything firsthand and you give the report back to the other people that’s coming in. So everybody knows what to do when they get there. So this kind of goes hand in hand with the home inspection. I’m the first person in there and I’m the boots on the ground for the buyer and I’m telling them what’s going on in there. So they know what to do.
Brad Lowery :
That’s fantastic, man. Now we’re glad you joined the show because there is some crossover right when it comes to understanding a structure from the perspective of a firefighter and then under understanding a structure from the perspective of a home inspector. So we kind of want to pick your brain about how one informs the other and how both can help you be better at both. But before we do that, guys, we do have to do our drink of the day. Matt, we didn’t sip on anything last week because it’s dry January or for us, dryer January.
Matt Brading :
It was like a dry portion of January for me.
Brad Lowery :
That’s it. That’s it. Yeah, like, there’s a couple weeks maybe that we’ve towed the line on this. So I’ve got a drink for today that fits with dryer January’s but go first man. What are you sipping on?
Matt Brading :
I did my best. Well, mine does not fit with dryer January. I just went straight in, man. It’s been a little while. I’m having a whiskey neat. I’m having a bourbon neat. This is a cool bottle. OK, this is it. I mean, it’s a cool bottle and it like literally is a cool looking bottle. Right. This is called New Riff. This is their single barrel bourbon. It’s only about fifty bucks. It’s a relatively new bourbon on the market. Sits at about.
Brad Lowery :
It really is.
Matt Brading :
One hundred eleven proof and so it’s pretty stout. It’s a nice drink though. It’s a good ball. for a good price. So cheers.
Brad Lowery :
I got to check that out, man. Yeah, cheers to you on that. Rhyan, what are you sipping on?
Rhyan Miller :
Keeping it healthy. Trying to get into that gym a little bit more so less on the bourbon but I got a nice little blueberry ginger kombucha over here and that’s what I’m sipping. It’s got a little alcohol content maybe like point zero zero you know somewhere in there.
Brad Lowery :
There you go. It’s good for the gut. Yeah, it’s fermented. Yeah.
Matt Brading :
Yeah, yeah. You know how you know how that would be good with some bourbon in it. Just kidding. Just kidding. I respect that. I respect that. I haven’t had a drink in a minute. So this is, you know, well deserved, I think.
Rhyan Miller :
Leave it to this guy. If X moves, I’ll shoot.
Matt Brading :
and guys
Rhyan Miller :
Hey, cheers for.
Brad Lowery :
I’m really, I’m really doing my best to be healthy, to up my, my water intake, to stay hydrated. Cause I’ve been hitting the gym hard to see in some good results. And, uh, you know, it is, it is dryer January. So I, I have right here, Ranch Water because it’s water, right? Like this is this, this is, this counts, right? It’s only eighty calories. It’s only four percent.
Matt Brading :
It’s high grading. Yeah. Thanks.
Rhyan Miller :
Absolutely.
Matt Brading :
But before you guys go knocking me, want you to know like this is mostly water too. There’s an awful lot of water that goes in the bourbon process distilling. It’s all about water. If it wasn’t for the water, we wouldn’t have it.
Rhyan Miller :
Mm.
Brad Lowery :
Yeah, yeah. Aged water. That’s it. The only water that’s not in there is the only water that’s not in there is the angel share, you know, that’s it. Yeah, but I feel like it says water. You know, yeah, that’s it. So, cheers to y’all. Cheers to y’all watching. And guys, let’s jump into it. So Rhyan, right off the bat.
Rhyan Miller :
Mm-hmm.
Matt Brading :
Hahaha
Rhyan Miller :
Absolutely. I don’t know what you’re talking.
Matt Brading :
Gotta be hydrating. Cheers.
Rhyan Miller :
Cheers.
Brad Lowery :
You’ve already told us about the name first in inspections, but what did you want to be a home inspector? What kind of which came first the firefighter or the home inspector? And what was your thought process and integrating both?
Rhyan Miller :
Alright, so definitely the firefighter came first. I was a young kid getting out of school. I didn’t really have any ideas as to what I really wanted to do. So school just like this big puzzle to figure out. And I always knew I was a real physical person and like hands on kind of guy. So I heard about firefighting and heard how much they paid. It wasn’t a crap ton of money, but it was it was still more than what I know people were getting paid at the time. So I was like, let me try it out. I went to the academy. I loved it. Absolutely loved it. And I’ve been doing it for fifteen years now.
Matt Brading :
Wow. Well, thank you for your service as a firefighter. That’s a really important thing, We need you guys out there. I know it’s a dangerous job, so I definitely appreciate that.
Brad Lowery :
Yeah.
Rhyan Miller :
Absolutely, absolutely.
Matt Brading :
So like, I mean, we touched on it a little bit, but I mean, I got to know like in specifics, how has being a firefighter like changed how you would go about being a home inspector?
Rhyan Miller :
Mm-hmm. Man, so with being a fire, I’ve seen so many house fires and like the ways that they start and all this stuff like that. So it definitely makes me go into home inspection with a fire safety kind of mindset. So I go in there and I’m looking at the dryer vents. I’m looking at the electrical components at home a lot more closely. I wouldn’t say more than the average inspector because everybody has to have some kind of sense of safety when it comes to doing the inspection side. But I see more firsthand of what can happen if it isn’t right. So I’m extremely diligent when it comes to looking at things like that now because of being a fireman.
Matt Brading :
Like electrical and like dryer vents. I feel like you had a video a long time ago because you used to used to post quite a few video. I miss your videos, man. That’s actually how me and Rhyan know each other is just the social media. We’re pretty close to the same area, right? I mean, aren’t you living in Houston too now? Okay, so.
Rhyan Miller :
Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah, I’m like Midtown. I’m like Midtown. You’re up north, right?
Matt Brading :
Yeah, I’m up north in spring. But there, think when we first kind of started chatting, you were I think living down there in Beaumont or something like that. And, but, bait baiting. That’s right. That’s right. Yeah, I’ve seen a ton of business in Baytown. I still continue to do that. Even when even before I realized that you moved, but I still do anyway. But
Rhyan Miller :
I was in Baytown. Yup, yup, was in Baytown. Yup, you do, you do. Yup, yup.
Matt Brading :
But yeah, so we met each other through social media and I would see some of these videos that you had posted. You’re good at it, man. It was good stuff. But I remember specifically and what was intriguing to me and kind of what I wanted to bring to the show was, you know, the fact that you have shown videos of things that happen as a direct result of things we inspect such as a clogged dryer vent. I think there was one in particular that you had that showed a house fire that happened because of a clogged dryer vent. Am I mistaken?
Rhyan Miller :
Mm-hmm yeah. No, you’re absolutely right. It was one that it completely ate up a whole side of the house Rip the wide open is unlivable and I guess we need to be more weird like the What’s those the knob and tube electrical systems that you we sometimes run across those as inspectors It’s not often but we do and I’ve seen so many fires with those
Matt Brading :
Yeah. Yes.
Rhyan Miller :
Not so much in the attic space too, which is kind of a scary thing. They’re usually in the walls in the wall cavity. Those. Yep. Can’t even see what’s going on back there. So for sure.
Matt Brading :
Yeah, well, you can’t even see him.
Brad Lowery :
Nice, especially in places that have older homes. I had the pleasure of seeing a renovated house. Gosh, this thing was almost one hundred years old now in East Nashville. The builder, he was a drummer here in the city. I don’t even know which band he was with, but just took to flipping properties around here. And this was one of those where they actually did it right. Where you could see that the old Nobitu was there, but it was abandoned. was, you know, correctly removed. You see the new Romex that was properly run. It was one of those where it’s like, okay, you you have these little hints at the history of the home, but it’s at least, you know, it wasn’t this mess where you see people trying to jumble three different generations of wiring together at one junction box. It shouldn’t be there, you know.
So it was it was cool to see. But yeah, I I’m definitely wondering man. So with home inspection, you said firefighting came first. What led you to home inspections? And what made you realize that this was going to be a great complimentary complimentary side career?
Rhyan Miller :
So I was buying my first house and got an inspector to come over. He did the inspection. And then after he left, I just felt like I could find more things in this in this house. I started going through the house, man, just looking for stuff. And I’m finding stuff as we live there, you know, over the years. And I’m like, how did he not see? So it just got me like, ate up inside. I wanted to know everything there was to know about it and I just deep dove into it and eventually came out actually doing it. It’s like I’m I want to do this for people because I want them to be informed just how I wanted to be informed when I bought my first house. So yeah.
Brad Lowery :
Nice.
Matt Brading :
So we, you know, and
Brad Lowery :
Get on you, man.
Matt Brading :
We touched on like how being a firefighter has had an effect on you as a home inspector, but how has there been any effect there like the other, the other way around, like on the flip side, like being a home inspector and how does that affect you being a firefighter?
Rhyan Miller :
Absolutely. So we see all kind of different problems all the time, like buzzing electrical panels and arc and wires underneath the house and, you know, grounding, grounding rods being red hot because they’re getting so much current through them. And before I was a home inspector, had no idea what any of that stuff was doing or why I was doing what it was doing or how to. Yeah, yeah, exactly. It’s just gold refired. Put it up.
Matt Brading :
Go to the fire, put it out.
Rhyan Miller :
Building construction I’m talking about like low how load is transferred from the roof into the foundation and I had no idea how any of that worked but now being an inspector and knowing the science behind these things actually Improves my firefighter knowledge because I’m like I know where to be and where not to be You know what I mean? I know where a heavier fire low would be.
Matt Brading :
Yeah. Yes.
Brad Lowery :
Yeah. You probably got the rest of the team that’s looking at you now going, Hey, so why so can you explain why this this happened over here? Like you probably know, right? Are you like the expert in the room now?
Rhyan Miller :
Exactly. Exactly. I feel like an expert with certain things. There’s still plenty of people way above me.
Matt Brading :
That’s the home inspector thing though. We all feel like we’re experts, right? It’s funny though, I never saw that coming. I was excited to talk to you today because obviously like the two things together seem to compliment one another like Brad has said a few times here. I think that that’s obvious. to me, I go straight to safety hazards like fire hazards and electrical hazards and things like that. Things that could cause a fire. But I never thought about, I mean,
Rhyan Miller :
Yeah.
Matt Brading :
You just went right there about the structural aspect of it like knowing how we know more about load paths and how that can help you as a firefighter like you said know where to be and we’re not to be That’s actually huge and that didn’t cross my I know we’re gonna talk about that today but I think that’s huge and I can see how that really played a role and how you probably Know a lot more about that now after your training as a home inspector than you did before when you’re just firefighter now
Rhyan Miller :
Mm-hmm.
Matt Brading :
You know in Texas at least you have to be licensed and if you’re in a trade For a certain period of time it can Lessen the amount of training that you have to have to acquire your license How does that have does being a firefighter have any effect on you getting license? I didn’t think so I didn’t make so I mean it seems like there’s a lot of boots on the ground training going on when you’re firefighting that it seems like it should lend itself a little bit, but –
Rhyan Miller :
Negative. It’s just engineering. think it’s just engineering.
Brad Lowery :
They don’t care probably.
Rhyan Miller :
It should be, it should be though. Yeah, absolutely.
Matt Brading :
How long have you been licensed as a home inspector?
Rhyan Miller :
About four years now.
Matt Brading :
Okay, okay, wow. Somehow I thought it was longer than that, just because it feels like I’ve known you for a long time.
Rhyan Miller :
You know, I know, man, it’s been a while. It’s genuine friendship there, you know.
Brad Lowery :
That’s cool.
Matt Brading :
That’s right.
Brad Lowery :
Dude,
Matt Brading :
Right.
Brad Lowery :
I can’t imagine though, like when I go places, I still, you can’t shut the home inspector brain off, right? Like I was up in Cincinnati shooting a video for, for porch recently, and I walked outside this downtown, you know, a hundred plus year old buildings. And you can see the, the, the structural tensioning devices that are in the exterior. There’s those stars you see on the brick wall on the outside that’s basically those are rods going through the center of the building that’s tying the framing together to keep things from bowing out and falling apart. But anyway, I can’t shut my brain off sometimes when I’m when I’m looking around different places to the point that like friends around me are like, dude, shut up, like what nobody cares right now.
Matt Brading :
Been told many times stop inspecting my house.
Brad Lowery :
That’s it. Yeah, see, I was at my friend’s house last night. And I’m like, you could have you could have maybe cut the deck boards a little more a little more square over here. But okay, you know, at least you save some money doing it yourself.
Rhyan Miller :
Dude, think you got that bad? I’m sorry. I’m sorry. You think you got that bad? I have to go to patients house every day. Like it’s not just your friends or your family. It’s like everybody that calls nine one one. We go there to their homes. And so every time I’m like, it’s almost like I got to tune myself back in because I’m to be there for the patient, but I’m looking at their roof. I’m like, that’s a lifted shingle.
Brad Lowery :
Yeah. Right? Yeah, that’s what I’m wondering. It’s got to be a double.
Matt Brading :
Why do you even live here?
Brad Lowery :
Whammy for you, man, like, because you’re looking for fire safety. You’re looking at structure. You’re like, I mean, you’re just constantly on alert, aren’t you? When you go places like that.
Rhyan Miller :
Yeah, like what is going on? Absolutely.
Matt Brading :
So how does this like come to play like whenever you’re doing like the wrap up with the clients, like knowing what you know about what can happen with some of these things, you know, how do you, cause a lot of our job is delivering this information to the buyer, right? Not necessarily in a report fashion, but sometimes in a verbal fashion. Now, how does like your knowledge of this stuff affect how you like are dealing with clients on a verbal basis and like what’s going in your report. Like, you know, are you putting like extra emphasis on things just because of what you’ve seen? How is it that you balance that without being like some type of alarmist?
Rhyan Miller :
I think the best practice is just to shoot it straight, shoot it straight down the middle, give the people the facts, and then let them decide on what they are willing to do and what they’re willing not to do. As far as like big, big hazards like burglar bars, we’re talking about zinco panels, stuff like that, that are known fire hazards. I let them know why it’s a hazard. I don’t just say this is a hazard. You know, like you might need to get that looked at like, no, listen, ma’am, this panel, it’s under it’s like this. They want to replace because the breakers don’t trip. And if they don’t trip, you know, it can heat up and cause a fire. I just want you to know, understand that. And I just go from there.
Brad Lowery :
And then you’re like, here’s what’s going to come down first when it does ignite.
Matt Brading :
Yeah. Can you imagine that? So this is going to start a fire and that’s going to affect this load bearing member right up here. When that falls, then I can see it going down a whole rabbit hole.
Brad Lowery :
You don’t want to be standing over here, you know.
Matt Brading :
That’s Yeah. Yeah.
Brad Lowery :
Okay, yeah. Yeah, that’s what I was gonna ask fix, man. It’s like, do realtors trust you more when you point this stuff out? Or like, does that does being the firefighter downplay the deal killer kind of vibe? Or like, is it by you more respect? How’s that work?
Rhyan Miller :
I’m glad somebody else knows the phrase deal killer because this is like, I thought I was the only one that knew that phrase. I’m like, I’m not trying to be a deal killer. I’m just telling people what it is. I really don’t even think that phrase should exist. You know what I mean? It’s like, we are here to give the people what’s wrong with the home. We were here to give them the facts. We give them the facts. As long as you do it in like,
Brad Lowery :
Amen.
Rhyan Miller :
Like I get there some inspectors that really sometimes don’t know how big of an issue something is and they may blow it out of proportion. I get that guy. He needs to be educated, need to educate himself some more on the subject matter. But for people that are experiencing shooting people how it is, and I don’t think that should be an issue for anybody.
Brad Lowery :
No.
Matt Brading :
Yeah. I don’t, I don’t disagree with that at all. mean, like, I kind of think it’s, I think the whole deal killer thing is funny. We had a, do South Brad on a couple, a couple of episodes ago. He’s his license plate says deal killer. Yeah. He just lays into it, which I think is kind of funny too. Like, but the fact of the matter is that I can’t remember who said this. I mean, many of us have probably said it at some point, but you know, the homespitter doesn’t kill a deal. The house kills a deal.
Brad Lowery :
FUN TIME!
Rhyan Miller :
Ha Perfect.
Brad Lowery :
That’s it.
Matt Brading :
I think there’s a lot of truth in that because like it’s what’s wrong with the house. I do think that the delivery of information, which I, I mean, when, when, people ask me, you know, what they can do to be a better inspector or, or, um, uh, you know, what, what, uh, you know, tips I have for them. I really, a lot of times try to focus on, you know, improve the way you’re delivering this information because you know, it is important to deliver the information in a way and not everybody takes it the same. Like you gotta, gotta read people a little bit, figure out how they’re going to be because I’ve talked to some people before about, you know, a hazard that was kind of out of their realm of knowledge. You know, maybe it’s an electrical thing or something. They’re like, is that bad? And I’m like, well, I it’s not great. You know, this needs to get done. And then I’ve talked to some people about, well, you you’ve got some missing sealant around some of your windows and they go, you know, what are we going to do about that? Like who fixes that? It’s like, whoa, mean, like, hold on. Like, that’s not really that big of a deal.
Rhyan Miller :
Soon. Yes. Absolutely.
Matt Brading :
And so, you got to kind of read the room a little bit and see who you’re talking to. But I think, you know, it is important like to to not go out of our way to scare people. I’m not wearing a chip on my shoulder. I just want to give you the facts and I want to shoot you straight and answer any questions that you have about, you know, these issues. I think there are some blatant things like you said, and I feel like you kind of probably drive this home even more so than I do. But like there’s some things that are just a straight up hazard. There’s some things that you almost feel like you’re going to go like this is going to start a fire. Like it’s not a matter of if it’s a matter of when if you don’t get this handled, there’s trouble around the corner. There’s some things that go there, but that’s very few items. And I mean, it’s not a downplay things that are wrong with houses. Um, but I think like, you know, we’ve got to deal with people’s concern level and everything, uh, because it’s okay. Somebody said, I can’t remember who was, who was it said it’s not.
Rhyan Miller :
Very few.
Matt Brading :
The home inspector that kills houses. It’s the house. But the truth is, I think it’s the buyers themselves. Actually, it’s everybody. It’s the understanding of information between the buyer, the real estate agent representing them, the home inspector, and then just the issues that the house presents. And so, I mean, I think it’s a combination of all of that stuff. But I mean, yeah, I think we get called bill killers a lot. I don’t think it’s quite fair.
Brad Lowery :
But all this is real. I got a, this isn’t patting myself on the back, I’ve, I maybe had. I would say two or three people tops and gosh, years of doing this, who, you know, said or alluded to the fact that I killed the deal. And a lot of that, the reason for that high success rate and never hearing that implied about myself is simply because it’s like, I went out of my way. The one thing that we can control is how we communicate stuff. And I went out of my way to make sure that I communicated things well and in a way that was like not inspiring fear, you know, and don’t again, don’t downplay things that don’t need to be downplayed, don’t upplay things that don’t need to be upplayed. But Rhyan, let’s actually talk about that. What are some things as a firefighter that you see realtors and home buyers kind of downplay that are major safety issues? And how do you go about communicating that to them?
Rhyan Miller :
Burglar bars, burglar bars, burglar bars. Those are some huge safety issues. Key deadbolts. Yes, yes, absolutely. Egress and us getting ingress, you know? It’s tough. So I get, like some people live in some neighborhoods, they’re pretty rough.
Brad Lowery :
Ooh, okay.
Matt Brading :
We’re talking about in terms of egress, right? Yeah
Brad Lowery :
Yeah.
Rhyan Miller :
So you kind of got to pick your poison there. But if it were me, I would rather choose none on my windows whatsoever. then absolutely, absolutely. And then the the dry vents, of course, those things clog up. That’s one of the bigger things that’s happening that happen around. But a lot of times fires are really caused by, you know, human error or.
Matt Brading :
You get insurance for a reason.
Rhyan Miller :
faulty appliances even, you know what I mean? Like it’s stuff that gets put in the home after we inspect it. It’s like y’all putting in all these DIY projects and stuff like that. really will, you know, if you don’t know what you’re doing, you can set it up and properly. And, you know, I just caution against stuff like that.
Matt Brading :
Yeah.
Brad Lowery :
You know, Matt, that kind of circles back to some stuff that Christina was saying last week, which was essentially when it comes to, you know, in her case, clean homes, one of the biggest factors and maybe the most critical factor is the homeowner themselves in terms of the overall cleanliness and how a house stays clean and healthy. But same thing here when it comes to safety and removal of fire hazards or prevention of fire hazards, it all comes down to who’s in the house.
Matt Brading :
You know, you were talking about the dryer vent and I know this is one of those hot topics, man. I go back to it a lot because I mean, obviously like from your experience and not you’ve seen it, you know, you’ve seen the problems and that’s, that’s always one thing that we as it’s kind of one of those things where I think that the general public overlooks it as being a, a hazard. And as inspectors, we’re kind of honed in on this. The thing is, you know, I do a lot of new, you probably do to do a lot of new construction inspections where they leave a screen on the dryer vent. This is a big problem. And I remember one recently, and this is something that I really feel like needs to be addressed here. Recently, well, I did an eleven month warranty probably a few months ago on a house. A year prior, I did the final inspection on that house. And when I was on the roof, I found a screen on the dryer vent. Now, there’s a couple of different schools of remove the screen when you find it or leave it and report on it. And I’m more of a blanket across the board most of time. I’ll leave things the way I find it and report on it, period. And especially this new construction stuff, it’s their responsibility. I do that because I want them to know that it was left that way so that they can send somebody up there to correct it so that maybe that problem won’t happen again. And so in this case, I found a screen on it. I reported it. Because the screen can just pop right out, right? But I left it. I reported on it, told the buyer about it. And I mean, I didn’t like make it seem like a huge problem. Like, like, hey, this is going to catch fire. But I was like, hey, they left the screen on there. The dryer does not need the screen. It can collect lint. It’s going to affect the performance of your machine. It can be a fire hazard. Like I said, it probably just like that. Right. And then of course, there was a lot of emphasis put on the in the report. Go back a year later. They had me come back a year later to the warranty inspection. I go up on the roof and that screen is still there and it’s filled with lint now.
Rhyan Miller :
Mm-hmm.
Matt Brading :
And I’m like, all right, well, clearly the builder’s not going to remove it. So I’m going to just do it. And so I grabbed a pair of pliers. I pulled it out and I took the screen and all that lint that was in the screen inside and showed her, told her the whole story about how I found it last time and they didn’t remove it. And she looked at me and she, she clearly was not very happy. She was like, she wasn’t, she wasn’t vocal about it, but she clearly was not very happy with what I was telling her. And it wasn’t in a way where she was mad at the builder. So I was like, okay, what’s up? You know, like what, was going on here? And she goes, well, the builder told me that that was supposed to be there. That was, that was code required.
Brad Lowery :
Tell her how’s that it was code required for a screen to be on the driver. Even though the vent itself literally is labeled remove screen for dryer, which even if the code said it was supposed to be there, the device saying remove screen takes that right out of the picture.
Rhyan Miller :
No.
Brad Lowery :
You go with the device, go with the manufacturer instructions.
Matt Brading :
And, uh, but, but the builder, instead of sending somebody out there to take it, they left them in a situation that could have been a fire hazardous situation by just convincing them, them that it was up to code, showed her the vent. I gave her the screen. I was like, well, you’re welcome. I can go put it back if you want me to. I really don’t want to. She told me to leave it, leave it like that. But anyway, um, yeah, that’s the builder convincing somebody that it was okay. Can you believe that?
Rhyan Miller :
Absolutely.
Brad Lowery :
Actually, I think we probably all can. That’s the idea here.
Matt Brading :
Yeah, I mean we’ve all seen it, right?
Rhyan Miller :
I don’t want to believe it. That’s a broad don’t want to believe that. That’s the case. That’s crazy, man.
Matt Brading :
I don’t want, I didn’t want to believe it either. And if I didn’t see it with my own two eyes, one year apart, eleven months apart, I mean, you know, I just knew that that was going to be taken care of. couldn’t believe it when I saw it there. Full of lint after one year.
Brad Lowery :
I go. I wonder who would be liable for that, Rhyan. If, that it did ignite, right? And, you know, either the insurance adjuster goes back out there or, you know, firefighter finds the source that there was a screen covering the dryer vent. You know, if the homeowner looks at it goes, I was told to leave it there despite my inspector, like who’s to blame in a situation like that?
Rhyan Miller :
Man, I’d have to say the builder. It cannot be anybody’s blame but the builder at that point. But the problem with that is I don’t know if you ever seen a fire investigator do their job. It’s probably one of the most difficult jobs there can ever be. Like imagine a house burnt to a crisp and it’s like you got wood and burnt things everywhere. You have to figure out what started.
Matt Brading :
don’t really think it goes to the builder. I can imagine.
Brad Lowery :
Yeah.
Rhyan Miller :
Where it started from and like look at damage pattern and stuff like that. What do you do when there’s so much damage? It’s so extensive. It’s hard to come back and say whose fault it is because you really don’t know. And sometimes.
Matt Brading :
Yeah. Yeah.
Brad Lowery :
Did you kind of look at both of those careers and just go, let’s inspect the house while they’re still standing. Let’s do that.
Rhyan Miller :
Yes.
Matt Brading :
Do you, I mean, you’re probably you’re not in fire investigation, but I mean, like has being a home inspector led you to, you know, kind of theorize as to where some of these starting points are sometimes or are you just focused on let’s get this fire out?
Rhyan Miller :
I’m nine times out of ten just trying to go home, know, this let’s get this fire out. Let’s knock this out. Save any lives that we can and let’s get let’s get out of there. Now it is it is intriguing to look at the property after a fire hasn’t occurred just because it’s been when I say it’s hot. It is crazy hot. So. And it gets crazy. It’s hot like that for a long time. And it’s amazing to see how some of these structures still stand up after a fire. You would imagine that you would think as a regular person, it would collapse pretty quick. But it really doesn’t like a home could withstand a lot, a lot of punishment, especially like the Joyce and Pertiline style homes. You know what mean? Start getting into those trusses and stuff like that. Of course, those gussets can fail. But yeah.
Matt Brading :
What’s the most dangerous fire situation you’ve been in?
Rhyan Miller :
My gosh. This happened recently. It was a downtown fire in Beaumont. Get there probably like the second on scene. It’s a high rise building, fully involved. It’s going crazy. You got fire coming out of everywhere, smoke coming out of everywhere. Well, actually it’s just, it’s just smoke coming out of everywhere at this point, but you know it’s a fire about how the smoke’s puffing out of the doors and the windows. So I get fully dressed up and geared up. I’m talking about this thing like stories high and they send me up to the fourth floor. You got climb up the ladder. We’ve got a big foot extension ladder. Go up there. Get up on this ledge. The ledge is like this wide. The ledge is like this wide. The window is probably like four feet from where we got up on. So you have to like inch away against the wall up into this window. And my captain, he was like, all right now, bust the window open because they had a piece of plywood in the window. Like, so I had to, I took the big tool from him and I’m standing on that little ledge, mind you, and I gotta beat this window in. I finally get that in and you step inside of this place and it’s like, you can’t see this in front of you. So it’s like, where?
Brad Lowery :
Cheers.
Rhyan Miller :
Like if you’re not scared at that point, like you know this building’s on fire, this huge building. We know nine eleven – God rest their souls. And that’s all you can think about in that instance. So I’m like, I was panicking a little bit, but I stayed in the heat. But yeah, we didn’t really do much that fire. It was kind of a lost cause. That’s a big building. Anyway, exactly. Yeah, for sure.
Brad Lowery :
At least you made it out, man. Dang.
Matt Brading :
I gotta ask what’s going on with that. Is that a disposal?
Rhyan Miller :
Yes, my knee keeps hitting the disposal. I’m dropping.
Matt Brading :
I let it go like three times. I was like, I know that sound. I mean, I’m a home inspector. I know the sound. I don’t know if he’s testing me. Oh man. All right. I love it when natural stuff just happens.
Brad Lowery :
Yeah, dude last week, mean, it was it was the dog knocking the camera over. Yeah, this week we got it. All kinds of stuff, man. And we don’t cut hardly anything out of this show. So it’s just life going on around us. man.
Matt Brading :
Yeah, yeah. Good. Huh.
Rhyan Miller :
Garbage is moldy.
Matt Brading :
Man, I say just go at it, you know, too much.
Rhyan Miller :
Yeah. Hey.
Matt Brading :
Production value takes away from it. So, you know, like, obviously I know you firefighter, home inspector. When I was training at champion school, real estate, there was a couple of firefighters in my class. great guys, Brad, you said you knew a firefighter and, home inspector. it’s obviously something that, I mean, clearly they compliment each other, but
Brad Lowery :
Absolutely.
Matt Brading :
That’s it. We’re here for the human element.
Rhyan Miller :
I know you asked me.
Matt Brading :
Yep.
Matt Brading :
Something that firefighters tend to gravitate to that because obviously you guys do shift work, right? So I guess that leaves you some time to do inspections in between there with your free time. Is this something that you would suggest to firefighters or I mean, it’s hard to suggest to a homeless person to become a firefighter. That’s a completely different situation. But I mean, is it something like if a firefighter was looking for something to do, some work to do in between shifts?
Rhyan Miller :
Right, right, Exactly.
Matt Brading :
Is it something you would suggest to them or is it like, know, Hey, I built this thing, you know, several years ago, but man, it’s actually kind of tough. was costly, you know, I love doing it, but I don’t know if I’d suggest it to others. Like, how do feel about that?
Rhyan Miller :
I feel like if you’re getting into it for the wrong reasons, I wouldn’t suggest it. And those reasons are just to be a quick money grab. If you have a genuine passion for it, you find yourself studying and you’re studying one topic and then you rabbit hole into another if you’re that kind of person then I think this would be a good field for you to get into, especially if you have a keen eye and you’re diligent with your work. It’s perfect for you to get into because not only are you helping save lives outside of work, you’re literally, you can say your work here can save a life, but you’re also learning more about what we do as firemen a little more in depth, you know, and that’s never a bad thing. It’s never a bad thing.
Brad Lowery :
Yeah.
Matt Brading :
That’s great. I love the fact that you’re like, hey, you know, it’s a fantastic thing if you want to, if you’re passionate about it. If you’re not passionate about it, probably not the road for you because yeah, I mean, I can’t imagine it being with the rate that you get to do inspections and especially in the beginning with all the tools and the training that you had to pay for, like this wasn’t profitable for a while.
Brad Lowery :
Yeah.
Rhyan Miller :
Yeah, yeah, it kind of sucked in the beginning, but it wasn’t as bad as some other things, though. Like I’ve gotten to videography on me and Brad were talking earlier, videography and photography. You talk about some expensive camera gear and cameras and lenses. It gets crazy. Yes, yes. my God.
Brad Lowery :
Oh, and everybody wants to pay you fifty bucks for a shoot. Like, you know, yeah, hey, how about this? Yeah, I want – Yeah, I was about to say, how’s the profitability going with that? A thousand pictures, come shoot my wedding, and we’ll give you a couple hundred bucks. How’s that sound? You know, like, oh, okay. And all of them edited. Oh, wow. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. How about it? You know, oh, with my thirty five hundred dollar camera, let’s go, you know, like, walking around with five grand worth of equipment at a time on you.
Rhyan Miller :
Yeah, exactly. Yeah, sure, sure thing. Twenty five dollars.
Matt Brading :
In addition…
Rhyan Miller :
Yup, yup, exactly.
Brad Lowery :
And here’s fifty buddy, you know.
Matt Brading :
In addition to you guys both having that in common, Rhyan is also a musician. I haven’t seen any of your stuff in a while. Have you posted anything in a while?
Rhyan Miller :
I haven’t man, I’ve just been really focusing on work man. I need I do I really do man. I can’t let it go to waste. Now you guys you guys do music too as well.
Matt Brading :
Get on that. Yes. Well, I’m
Brad Lowery :
I wouldn’t call it music, but I have a bass that I play now and then.
Rhyan Miller :
I’m sure it’s great.
Matt Brading :
I’ve been a guitar player for thirty plus years. I haven’t really been active at it in a while, but I’m getting back into it. My son picked it up back in the summer and it’s like, there’s like a raging fire inside me now, you know, like, and there ain’t no putting it out. Like I gotta, gotta, I gotta go. And so, you know, we’ve been, we’ve been playing guitar together. I’ve been teaching him stuff and we’ve been kind of, I’ve been kind of
Rhyan Miller :
Yeah.
Matt Brading :
Considering like rejoining like the music scene, which is you know, I didn’t know that was ever gonna happen again
Rhyan Miller :
Acoustic or electric, you want.
Brad Lowery :
He’s got a nice pretty new acoustic, man.
Rhyan Miller :
Acoustic, that’s what I’m talking about.
Matt Brading :
I got all kinds of guitars, There’s one of them behind me right now, but I got a problem.
Rhyan Miller :
If I could play, I’ll be famous already, man, I’m telling you. If I know how to play an instrument, it’s on.
Brad Lowery :
Dude, being in Nashville, being in Nashville, I just enjoy watching everybody else, but.
Matt Brading :
Yeah.
Brad Lowery :
But yeah, no, it’s cool. Dude, want to jump back in speaking of side things and side gigs and, you know, one of the mentioned at the top of the show, one of the things that was kind of sparking a little bit of commentary was a video that we posted where, you know, we were talking about how if you really want to go gangbusters with inspections, you got to lean in full time on it. But again, not everybody has that flexibility or you know, ability at all just because of their main thing, right? You’ve got five years left probably if you’re going to retire with a twenty-year pension, you know, from the fire department. So yeah, you know, you don’t want to stop right now. You’ve got it. You’ve got five more years that you got to see out here and, and then you can maybe transition full time, but how do you juggle that workload? How do you, balance, turning down jobs when they come in, but you’re on the clock.
Rhyan Miller :
Absolutely.
Brad Lowery :
And kind of what’s your idea for growing this going forward? of questions, but answer them as you go.
Rhyan Miller :
It absolutely. I think that the balance is kind of it’s a delicate one, but it’s not too bad. It’s not too bad. Of course, there’s firefighting that that’s kind of just concrete. It’s just set in stone. You know what you’re going to do. You know the days you’re going to work. Of course, there’s always an overtime variable, but it’s not it’s nothing that you can’t turn down. As far as the home inspections go, it is so flexible to work around my schedule. can kind of, I can put things where I want them to be. If I want to inspect that seven in the morning, I go inspect at seven. If I want to do ten or later in the afternoon, I can go do that. So I think they marry perfectly. As far as the business aspect of it, you get what you put in, right? So it really takes putting feet on the ground and getting that clientele for inspections. And especially when you first start off, right? So it’s kind of hard to do that if you’re not like full time in it. You know what I mean? It’s you kind of, I’m putting less work in than what you guys put in. So my fast times aren’t as fast as y’all’s, but. Also, my slow times are even slower, you know, so it’s like you have that’s the kind of trade off with that. I’m not making probably making near what you guys are making but it’s an add-on to what I’m already making as a fireman. So it’s not nothing. It’s not my first job.
Brad Lowery :
Sure.
Matt Brading :
I mean, I can see you like once you get past the hump of like I say all the expense to get started. Then then you know, it can like you said, it can be like ancillary income. I think that there’s a couple of things that when we talk about people doing this part time that I kind of discourage for it’s it’s it’s for a couple of reasons. But I think your situation and what you do as a full time job is lends itself very well to it.
Rhyan Miller :
Exactly.
Matt Brading :
The reason why is because number one, you being a firefighter is a really good selling point. mean, if you’re just if you’re a car salesman and you’re looking to get into home inspection as a side gig, you know, I don’t think that’s great. Right. Like that’s not a selling point whatsoever. People in the military. That’s a really good. So that’s a really good selling point. You know, like a veteran veteran owned company. This is firefighter owned company. I that’s a good selling point.
Brad Lowery :
Yes.
Rhyan Miller :
Fuck this shit. Right. Mm-hmm – an architect or something like that, yeah.
Matt Brading :
So, there’s a little bit of built in marketing there, with, with folks, that are starting a company and don’t have that to lean on, you know, they have to lean on just more traditional styles of marketing, which can be costly and you’re putting time and effort and money into marketing. And then when you get the calls, you may not be able to take them because you’re not available. And that, that, that’s one thing. Also, I feel like that the experience you get better, the more homes that you see. And when you’re working part time, you’re going to see less homes.
Brad Lowery :
Yeah.
Matt Brading :
They’re going to come in less frequently because you’re doing it part time, but they’re to come in less frequently because you can’t really adhere to the, you know, hustle and bustle of the real estate market. And so they’re going to come in a little bit slower and your experience is going to come a little bit slower where I think that, you know, it being a firefighter plays a, uh, an intricate role in that is you already kind of have a little bit. have some, underlying knowledge, whether you want to admit it or not, or kind of, um, maybe you don’t even know it.
But I feel like you have some underlying knowledge about homes and about safety hazards and a lot of the things that we already look for is some things that you already had there. So you’re bringing some experience to the table. That’s why I asked about your firefighter experience, whether or not that played a role in your education to get get licensed. Because I feel like without a doubt, you’re bringing some experience to the table that isn’t something that a lot of people have.
Brad Lowery :
Yeah, man.
Rhyan Miller :
I think absolutely, but I think it’s like one of those things like you look in the mirror every day. It’s like I’m not still fat today. Like, I’m getting skinny. Is this gym thing working? Because it’s like, you know, I like you said, I guess it’s some things I don’t realize I’m bringing to the table with me from the fire department into this because it’s just it’s just in me, you know, so.
Brad Lowery :
I am.
Matt Brading :
Yeah, I can see that man, but you definitely deserve more credit.
Matt Brading :
It’s, you know.
Rhyan Miller :
You
Brad Lowery :
A hundred percent. And one of the things I was just talking with one of the executives of the company about this just kind of things that we want to help new inspectors to understand. And one of one of the things is when you’re when you’re marketing a brand new business, and you’ve just opened shop, you’re like, how do I get that first inspections, right? Like, I used to do thirty to forty a month at my peak. But how do you even get period, you know, for some of these guys, they don’t know how. And it’s like, you have to have a value prop that when people ask, why do we need to use you? You’re brand new. I’ve got my guy that I was using. Why you? Very few people know how to answer that. And when you can just say, well, I put out fires and see homes in their best and worst situations at all, you know, for both my day job and my side job, they immediately just go, huh, okay. Yeah, this is, let’s get this guy in. Also tell me if this place is going to burn down and fall on my head. You know, it’s, that’s, it’s great, man. It’s so marketable for sure.
Matt Brading :
Yeah.
Rhyan Miller :
Absolutely.
Matt Brading :
But educationally, how would you recommend that the average home inspector learn to think more like a first responder? Like what are some things that they need to be looking out for when they enter the house and as they’re going through?
Rhyan Miller :
Hmm, I say it’s really already set for the home inspectors. Like everything that we look at is firemen because we’re looking at it, when it’s happening, like it’s already happened. Whatever happened, it’s happened and now we’re focused on it. But as a home inspector, you go on in with nothing’s happened yet. You know, it’s almost like that new house going into a brand new house and inspecting it for the first time. It’s like it’s really, you know, you really have to pay attention to problems that could occur versus the problems that are already there. So I guess like maybe like looking at some video of different things happen like different safety hazards are current like the fires and stuff like that electrical fires all kind of things like that are online. We live in a age where everything is accessible to here to you on this YouTube any Google whatever you want to do. But it is it is but you can see the damage that you wouldn’t see if.
Matt Brading :
Yeah. That’s dangerous though.
Rhyan Miller :
you know, you weren’t if you weren’t there, you know, so not everybody’s about to pop up and go to a house fire and see what’s going on in there like I can’t but
Matt Brading :
Sure. Hey, I’m going the other way. If there’s a house fire, like that’s the
Brad Lowery :
How about if I just start showing up?
Matt Brading :
…difference. Like you’re going to it. I’m going the other way.
Brad Lowery :
Absolutely.
Matt Brading :
You got ambulance chasers now you’re going to have inspector showing up going I just want to see what happens because Rhyan told me to like.
Rhyan Miller :
Hey
Matt Brading :
Yeah.
Rhyan Miller :
Rhyan did not say that.
Brad Lowery :
Can I go in and shadow?
Matt Brading :
You, oh man, that is something, yeah. Yeah, a ride along on the, to a call. Like, I don’t think so. I don’t think so.
Rhyan Miller :
on the fire truck.
Brad Lowery :
That would be interesting just to sit back and watch this. Don’t get anywhere involved, know, but just to observe. yeah, no.
Rhyan Miller :
Absolutely.
Matt Brading :
It seems like a highly
stressful situation. I don’t know, man.
Rhyan Miller :
It’s not that bad. Once you get trained for it, it’s not that bad. It’s not as as you think.
Brad Lowery :
No, I hear. Now you got to keep cool sets of pressure. Now do you have plans to grow the business once you do retire as a firefighter or go full time with it then?
Rhyan Miller :
I’m kind of going back and forth between two things. Of course, the photography and the inspection company. I love inspections. I love going and doing that, but I also really, really love photography. I can’t lie to you. I know the inspections, brings the most income in as far as the two, but, so I really don’t know. They’re both kind of floating up there. I love them both, so I’m just gonna continue to do them both until I pick a path to further either one of them, you know?
Matt Brading :
I mean,
Brad Lowery :
Like knows like.
Matt Brading :
feel like you could definitely do both.
Rhyan Miller :
Do you think so?
Matt Brading :
I think you could definitely do both of those
things. I I feel like, I don’t know. I feel like it’s gotta be harder to be a home inspector and a firefighter than it is to be a photographer and a firefighter. I don’t know.
Rhyan Miller :
I got I got to give up something. I don’t know what it’s going to be. I want to give up my running and all that stuff to like all this other stuff take time man. Too many too many. I’m the jack of all trades master none.
Matt Brading :
See, you’re like me. You’ve got too many hobbies, I know.
Brad Lowery :
It’s not a bad thing, dude. Yeah, I agree.
Matt Brading :
I’m not gonna go with master at nine. There’s a few things I’m pretty damn…
Rhyan Miller :
Master a song.
Matt Brading :
good at.
Rhyan Miller :
Master a song.
Matt Brading :
Yeah, that’s great. I’m Matt Brady and I’m good at a few things just all right some other ones.
Brad Lowery :
I’m Rhyan Miller and I’m all right. Yeah, yeah, just
Rhyan Miller :
Yeah
Matt Brading :
a bunch of average dudes here on this show. I love it, man. We speak for the everyman.
Rhyan Miller :
Hey, hey, if a guy
said he can kind of, I can kind of fight, don’t fight that guy, you know? Yeah, he’s going down play.
Brad Lowery :
Yeah, that’s right. Just downplaying.
Matt Brading :
Yeah, that’s right.
Brad Lowery :
Man, I love it.
Matt Brading :
Yeah, there’s certain areas where sand backing, guess, would actually be appropriate.
Brad Lowery :
I hear that. Well, man, what is one big takeaway that you would want inspectors and homeowners to both understand, to both look out for and know kind of coming from both of your worlds as a home inspector and a firefighter?
Matt Brading :
Okay.
Rhyan Miller :
probably say, you know, just to take things seriously, it kind of touches on more what we’re talking about, but just take things serious, you know, like if somebody tells you that it’s hazardous in an area, you know what mean? Like you just take what they’re talking about in a serious manner. Like you don’t want to be, we’re trying to inform you. We’re trying to inform you as an inspector. Just, you know. I don’t know what I’m saying right now. Hold on. I got lost in the question. I’m like, you were like, I was like, what? Hold up. Hold up, man. That was rough. Yeah, I’m like, what is, what did he ask again? Yeah.
Matt Brading :
That’s a tough question. I mean, legit, it’s a tough question, right?
Brad Lowery :
You’re good, you’re good man. If we tell you something, listen to it. It’s kind of what you’re saying. Yeah. Like, we’re not telling you just to flap our gums here.
Matt Brading :
I think I get it. Especially like, I mean, when we’re talking about, you know, fire hazards, electrical safety, stuff like that, you know, I mean, like, when you’re saying it, you’re saying it for a reason, you know, we’re doing the fact that you’ve seen the other side of things. It’s coming from like, hey, not only do I did I read a book or did an instructor tell me that this is problem, but I’ve seen what happens when the problem occurs.
Rhyan Miller :
Absolutely.
Matt Brading :
And so I feel like that’s what you’re trying to say. I’m thinking what you’re laying down, man.
Rhyan Miller :
Mm-hmm. I appreciate it. Pick it up.
Brad Lowery :
Definitely.
Matt Brading :
Yeah, you guys, gotta, I gotta give a shout out real quick to Sashko, my friends at Sashko and their movement to normalize going to trade school. Okay. I mean, it’s great. I love it. Kids. You want to go to college? You want to be a doctor? You’re to be a lawyer? Fantastic. That’s fantastic. I love it, but it’s not for everybody, right? It wasn’t for me. And obviously I’m not in a trade so much, but I mean, I did go to, I get trained to do a home inspection. That’s what I do. But we are lacking people in the trades and the old guys and gals that know all the stuff and how to do it all right, they’re retiring. And there’s not nearly as many people to replace them with any level of knowledge or care. We need people that wanna work with their hands, that want to get into trade schools and want to learn how to make some money that way. And let me tell you, you can go to college and study something and come out of college. And you may or you may not get a job in the field of everything that you studied, but you can go to trade school and you can work. You can learn how to be a plumber. You can learn how to be HVAC. And this stuff is not going away. We need people that are good. And the better you are, the more you.
Brad Lowery :
And you’re not going to replaced by AI. No, it’s a hundred percent, man. Yeah, I’ve actually got a young lady that’s doing her home inspection training right now. I split the InterNACHI fee with her. Twenty-three year-old young lady that’s in between careers. we were on a mission trip down to Mexico.
Rhyan Miller :
Five Fridays at the trade school.
Brad Lowery :
And she was down there with her dad and she was like, so what do you, what do you do? And I’m like, well, it’s been an interesting fourteen years. You know, I’ve kind of worn a lot of hats over my lifetime, but, you know, in the home inspection space now, she’s like, what’s that do? And I’m like, I can teach you if you want to learn because it was, I learned how to do this at a crossroads where someone went, you could actually do the things that you’re passionate about, manage your schedule in a way that has flexibility to do those things and pursue those interests and also make a living wage so that you could put a roof over your own head. And I went, huh. And so I explained things to her and she’s like, I’m all in, let’s learn. And so I’m like, okay, cool, I’ll split that fee with you. If you don’t finish the InterNACHI course within two months, you owe me the second half back. She goes, okay. And, you know, this is somebody that I would love to see kind of take my LLC and manage it here in the state of Tennessee. So I can build it back up in Florida at some point, but it’s a, it’s such a good career for people that are, know, either at a crossroads career wise or, you know, Rhyan, in your case wants something that’s kind of a ancillary gig or again, Matt, like you’re talking about if, you just want to learn a trade so that you have something that’s not going anywhere. Because it’s not your AI is producing tools and providing tools that are helping to make our jobs easier and better informed. But at the same time, it’s not replacing us,
Matt Brading :
Grandma ain’t calling AI to come fix her drain leak. Okay. That ain’t happening. You know, your AC goes out AI ain’t fixing that. Okay. These people, need tradesmen to come do that stuff. We are always going to need tradesmen to come do that stuff. It’s one of those things that just doesn’t go out of style. I just think for the longest time now we’ve focused an awful lot on, you know, go to school. I get it. We want the best for our kids. And you know what? Being in the trades.
Brad Lowery :
That’s it.
Rhyan Miller :
Mm-mm.
Matt Brading :
It’s not easy. I’m not sitting here telling you it’s easy, but I don’t know about you guys. There ain’t nothing ever really been that easy for me. mean, like I’ve, I work really hard at home inspection. Okay. I really enjoy it. I get a lot out of that. but I mean, yeah, you take down, you take the path of being a tradesman. It’s not necessarily going to be an easy path, but it’s very gratifying.
Rhyan Miller :
Absolutely.
Brad Lowery :
Gotta choose your heart, man. That’s it. Dude, Rhyan, thank you so much for being here today, man. This has been an awesome talk with you. I wish you all the best in your inspection and firefighting careers. And we’d love to get you back on the show sometime,
Matt Brading :
That’s right.
Rhyan Miller :
Absolutely, just don’t ask me that last question you asked me ever again and I’ll be back. You know, we good, we good.
Brad Lowery :
You did great, you nailed it man. You did good. That was it.
Matt Brading :
Take us out with one more disposal.
Brad Lowery :
That was it.
Matt Brading :
There we go. Right on.
Brad Lowery :
Perfect, love it. Well guys, thank you so much for watching. We’ll see you here next time. Better than ever. Right here on, you got it.
Matt Brading :
The Ride Along.